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Old 11-16-2012, 12:38 PM   #36
Stevie G
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Default Re: What fights can I see the best version of Ali/Clay there ever was?

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Originally Posted by Unforgiven View Post
Ok, so you're saying prior to Manila, Ali hadn't taken much punishment apart from the 27 rounds with Frazier and the 24 with Norton ?
That's a lot of punishment right there.
I'd also point to the 15 rounds with Oscar Bonavena, where he absorbed a fair bit of punishment, and the 8 rounds with Foreman.
That adds up to 74 tough rounds against big highly-ranked opponents.
And even guys like Jurgen Blin were getting to him.

From 1970 onwards he was using a style that incorporated absorbing 'too much' punishment.

Post-Manila he wasn't really even doing enough to win fights.

Between 1970-75,Ali may have not evaded quite as many punches as he'd done pre-exile,but he was still avoiding more than most. While not being QUITE as fast,he was still very fast for a heavyweight. The blows he took from the likes of Jurgen Blin were n't very much or hard.
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