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Old 11-16-2012, 11:38 AM   #36
Stevie G
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Default Re: What fights can I see the best version of Ali/Clay there ever was?

Originally Posted by Unforgiven View Post
Ok, so you're saying prior to Manila, Ali hadn't taken much punishment apart from the 27 rounds with Frazier and the 24 with Norton ?
That's a lot of punishment right there.
I'd also point to the 15 rounds with Oscar Bonavena, where he absorbed a fair bit of punishment, and the 8 rounds with Foreman.
That adds up to 74 tough rounds against big highly-ranked opponents.
And even guys like Jurgen Blin were getting to him.

From 1970 onwards he was using a style that incorporated absorbing 'too much' punishment.

Post-Manila he wasn't really even doing enough to win fights.

Between 1970-75,Ali may have not evaded quite as many punches as he'd done pre-exile,but he was still avoiding more than most. While not being QUITE as fast,he was still very fast for a heavyweight. The blows he took from the likes of Jurgen Blin were n't very much or hard.
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