Originally Posted by Unforgiven
Ok, so you're saying prior to Manila, Ali hadn't taken much punishment apart from
the 27 rounds with Frazier and the 24 with Norton ?
That's a lot of punishment right there.
I'd also point to the 15 rounds with Oscar Bonavena, where he absorbed a fair bit of punishment, and the 8 rounds with Foreman.
That adds up to 74 tough rounds against big highly-ranked opponents.
And even guys like Jurgen Blin were getting to him.
From 1970 onwards he was using a style that incorporated absorbing 'too much' punishment.
Post-Manila he wasn't really even doing enough to win fights.
Between 1970-75,Ali may have not evaded quite as many punches as he'd done pre-exile,but he was still avoiding more than most. While not being QUITE as fast,he was still very fast for a heavyweight. The blows he took from the likes of Jurgen Blin were n't very much or hard.