Originally Posted by bailey
Cleverly beat undefeated Murat, who had beaten former champ Campillo, who many felt was unlucky against Cloud. Cleverly took that 0 there.
Cleverly also beat undefeated Bellew, now the WBC LHW silver champ, who beat Miranda who many claim had worked Dawson over before his fight with Ward. That was another 0 that Nathan took. Both current top 10 LHWs.
Tell me which 0s did Ward take off top undefeated fighters?
To defeat an undefeated nobody is better than beating a top level fighter with a previous loss, is that what you're selling?
Mayweather, Hearns , Lewis, Cotto, Pacquiao never beat any top level undefeated fighters. Does that make them lesser champions?
Ross Purity took the "o" from Wladimir Klitschko, does that make him an all time great HW?
Hopkins zero was taken from him in his very first fight.
Your argument is a gimmick. You dont know where you are.