Originally Posted by Loudon
I understand exactly where you're coming from mate, and like I say, I was frustrated too.
I wish those fights with DM and Hop had have materialised, and I wish he'd never made Tarver fight Harding in that eliminator. If he'd have beaten Tarver earlier, he probably would have stayed at heavy a little longer, or gone to Cruiser, and his career might have turned out a lot different.
It was an absolute joke that Frazier was a mandatory, but Roy didn't have a lot of choice but to fight him, because he wanted to unify the division against Reggie Johnson. It would have been silly to kick up a fuss, but I don't know how he got himself motivated for that fight. He went on to fight Reggie in his very next fight.
Roy was supposed to be fighting Rocchigianni early in 2000, but something happened where he couldn't commit to the fight. David Telesco was his replacement. HBO wanted the fight with Telesco, and he'd been baiting Roy for a while.
Regarding Woods, I've heard Roy say that he didn't want the fight, but the IBF threatened to strip him if he didn't take it.
There's a lot of politics in boxing, and things are never as straight forward as they seem.
I found this interesting article a few days ago.
This shows that it would have been impossible for Roy to try and unify the 168 division, what he gets a lot of criticism for.
I agree that the fights with BHop and DM would've been great stuff for boxing at the time and would certainly have settled a lot of arguments about lineage that are still taking place.
Yeah the Mandatory system is sometimes ridiculous but on the flip side it helps fighters get their desired title shot.
Fair enough with Telesco and Woods if Roy didn't really want the fight but his arm was twisted. However, as you know and said it's never that simple in the end.
As for Roy staying at Heavy, great as he was I would've worried for him going in with a hard hitter at HW could have hurt rather than helped his career.
Yeah it's an interesting article, but apart from a throwaway unconfirmed Don King quote, we only hear from Levin so it could contain an element of bias.
I must say I liked this quote
"Jones, who usually leads with lightning left hooks, unwrapped a jab that looked like one of those "smart" missiles from Desert Storm. He outjabbed Pazienza by an incredible 85-4 margin."
The part about smart missiles made me chuckle
nice talking to you