Originally Posted by seamus
what advantage does a supposedly prime foreman carry?
Height and reach? Yes. Speed? No. Ferocity? I doubt it. Power? Debatable.
Sullivan certainly tamed his era much more thoroughly and emphatically than did foreman. Sullivan was also not a small man, a shade under 6 foot and around 200 pounds when trained hard. Speed and finesse he was noted for when foreman was only noted for power.
Look at foreman's record, pre-frazier, a goddamned list of tomato cans as long as your arm. He defended twice including once against some member of royalty named roman, and then faded into bolivian. That is the legacy of prime foreman. Do you really want to compare that to how sullivan owned the world of pugilism?
power? Debatable! Lol
lets debate that shall we.
You are saying john l sulivan that has a serious weight disadvantage strength disadvantage and a speed advantage hits harder than forman one of the hardest hitters of all time.
With that logic tyson has a speed disadvantage to pacman and so its debatable whether he hits as hard.