Originally Posted by dealt_with
I haven't seen those guys improve their boxing skills under Roach. I've seen them able to fight at a higher intensity for longer. So I give more credit to their S+C team than Roach there.
Pacquiaos boxing ability has improved dramatically...if you cant see that then you really dont know what youre watching. As for maybe its down to Ariza, maybe, but Pac was an ATG and p4p top 3 BEFORE Ariza. He also had everything, speed, explosiveness, power, stamina before Ariza. If anything Ariza helped him with the jump from LW to WW but Pac's body of work is 122-130.