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Old 12-05-2012, 06:32 AM   #34
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Default Re: Jeffries v Quarry

[quote]Jeffries hit harder than Quarry based on the fact that he floored everyone in his prime, and produced far more ten counts. A few historians felt Jeffries was an all time puncher. Odd and Diamond for example. Or to use a name you might be more familiar with Tex Rickard said Jeffries hit harder then Dempsey. now do you still think Quarry hit harder

Jeffries is bigger, stronger, has more reach, and probably has the edge on every part of the tale of the tape. Is this enough advantages for you?

Mendoz says: Quarry's weight is well within the range of Jeffries opponents, and Quarry's best weight is under 200 pounds.

Jackson was 195, Ruhlin 200 for both fights, and Munroe 215 when they fought Jeffries. Kennedy was likely over 190 as well, and Johnson was 208. I count five, not four...

As for footage I have seen Jeffries sparring with Ryan, and hitting a heavy bag, which are clips most here have not seen. If his work out clips vs Ruhlin which you have seen, you can see plenty

McVey says:
Choynski who was conceding 67lbs! and he had 20 rds to do it in
Choynski is a hall of fame fighter who was at his peak. Jeffries had only been pro for a while; still he floored Choyhski three or two times depending on the source. Choynski ran the entire half of the fight. Being a Jack Johnson fan, one would figure you’d play up Choysnki as he knocked him out cold in three rounds

Sharkey who was 6inches shorter, and between 32 & 35lbs lighter, went 45rds with Jeffries. Fitz kod Sharkey twice with one punch.
Once again, Shareky was a hall of fame fighter in his prime. You leave out stuff unpurporse. Jeffreis had Sharkey floored and hurt in the first match, and likely would have finished him in the 2nd match if not for the arm injury suffered in roudn two when he floored Sharkey. Still, the shape Sharkey was in at the end of the fight tells the tale. He was a broken mess, but he would not quit. I suppose you will blast Marciano for faling to finish Ted Lowry in both fights, or rip Sonny Liston for falign to stop some journyeman level people? Of coruse not, you’re a baised *****.

Armstrong who was kod quickly in a few fights, he went 10 rds to a finish, he was conceding 25lbs ,and had just been kod in 5 rds by Pete Everett.
Jeffries broke his thumb in round one and had Armstrong down and ready to go by the 10th.

Ruhlin in their first fight & and their second was a corner retirement. Griffin ,who was conceding 40lbs.
If you read fight reports, you will see Ruhlin was down twice, and finsihed the match out on his back saved by the count. The crowd hissed at the decsion, meaning the draw was questionable. Ruhlin was done for in the re-match and down in roudn five. If he did not throw in the sponge he would not have lasted long. Griffin who beat Johnson in the same 12 month span was also down multiple times.

Jeffries was always the bigger heavier man.
It took him 23rds to beat a long retired Corbett whom a167lbs Fitz took out with ONE shot when Corbett was prime.
So what. Corbett went 25+ rounds with hitters like Choynski and Jackson without going down. Fitz just caught him with a perfect body shot.

It took Jeffries 11 rds to stop a long retired Fitz.
If you look at the records, no man stopped Fitz for a ten year run ( too lazy to look up the dates ) exepct for Jeffries. Next!

Still no sign of any sources or names? I'll give you this ,you are consistant, you have NEVER produced a single, solitary primary source to back up any of your claims .

Jeffries record has little fat on it. His KO% in title fights is very good by any standard. To suggest he wasn’t a puncher is either badly misinformed or in your case a weak minded agenda.

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