Originally Posted by Two Shakes
Nard was over the hill,and way past his best when he fought Slappy.But now he's a hall of famer with a physical advantage over Pavlik.
Pavlik is a "hasbeen" at 160,and a "never was" at 168.
Was Hopkins or was Hokins not campaigning at 2 division above Pavlik at the time?
Is Martinez or is Martinez not a top 5 p4p'er who was given possibly his hardest match ina decade by Pavlik?