Originally Posted by irishny
And what if Ward goes up and loses in his first fight to Cloud.
Will Clouds victory mean nothing?
There are NO fights at 168 that really mean anhthing for Ward. This is as good as any.
Also, by "in his 30s" you mean just turned 30.
Pavlik is still a young guy.
Of course Cloud's victory would mean something, because Ward is a proven commodity at 168 and might be great at 175, too. No one knows that yet.
By the same token, Dawson was a good win for Ward because he might have been healthy at that weight. No one knew. Now, however, someone else beating him at 168 would mean little.
Pavlik at 168 is just like Dawson at 168. Not much accomplished, and previously exposed as not up to the task. In KP's case, he has several poor performances that harm his outlook plus all the out-of-the-ring stuff.
I don't blame Ward because there's not much else for him, but it sucks for Kelly because I think he could make a go of it — and a nice paycheck — against Abraham or Bute.