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Old 12-05-2012, 03:18 PM   #25
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Default Re: Boxer that would be the best Bare Knuckle fighter ?

Originally Posted by Ted Spoon View Post
Lest we forget that a London Prize Rule bout included wrestling and vicious throws. Many great boxers simply would not be prepared (or able) to continue after an awkward fall. You only need observe Bernard Hopkins writhe about after a breach of the rules to see that deep aversion to foul play. For many, working the referee is their safety net.

With rules that not only allow one to commit things that would get you instantly disqualified today but open the flood gates for another skill set it utterly changes this idea of a 'fight'.

Muhammad Ali may be 6,3, 212lbs, fast, resourceful and in possession of the most impressive resume in heavyweight history, but if Jem Belcher tossed him onto his head, there's a good chance it would be game over before you've decided on salted or dry roasted nuts.
I think it is very arguable that LPR suits Ali better than the actual rules he fought under.

So far as wrestling goes, Ali was very strong, and was able to physically outwrestle and manhandle anyone he faced. Even all time great power based fighters like Foreman or even maybe Liston.

Ali had speed to burn. His right hand lead could be thrown as fast as most jabs, and he was able to regularly land this punch at will on great fighters on a regular basis, even in the first round before fatigue set in. Imagine the effect this would have without gloves.

Ali was probably the best improviser i have ever seen in the ring. He knew what to do to win, and despite his bravado personality, he would do anything. Rope a dope, Lead rights, Showboat, Wrestle he always adapted. His lack of body punching is a worry for this type of fight, but i have no doubt that he will use the body punch if it is required. And i have no doubt that it would be devastating.

Ali's power is underated. Without gloves it would be in the devastating term.

Ali's stamina, which is all important in LPR fights is first class and close to as good as anyones.

Ali's chin would be close to inpenatrable under the 30 sec recovery period allowed. He came back from brutal knock downs in 10 secs. The extra 30 secs could only help him.

Ali doesnt sit down on every punch. he is unlikely to break his hands because he only sits down on his punches when he knows he is landing them clean. This must be a huge advantage.

Defence. Ali had the speed and reflexes to duck dodge parry etc. Like a corbett, or a Jem Mace, he would be near impossible to catch. this would help him wear down his opponents who would be chasing him around the ring.

Contrary to popular opinion, i think Ali is one of the better suited Modern fighters of all time under LPR rules. I think he could potentially be the greatest under either ruleset.
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