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Old 12-05-2012, 10:18 PM   #67
Hands of Iron
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Default Re: Is Roberto Duran a top-10 All Time Great?

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Originally Posted by LittleRed View Post
point by point: the qualifier is not the issue. In absolute terms Pedro pitched significantly fewer innings by like 60. It was.clearly easier for the top pitchers to create separation from their peers: check out the stupendous eras of Maddux, Johnson, Clemens, et al. I'm not suggesting Martinez wasn't great: I'm just saying, to me, it's more impressive to hit .375 over a full season than it is to hit .390 over 125 games.
I'm not bothered LR, my man.

Pedro was simply the best pitcher I've ever seen on film and I saw RJ live at least 20 times from 1999-02. The numbers are maybe 25% of what makes me consider him amazing. I used to have all kinds of different stuff on him but I got out of baseball for a good while. Just so rare to see someone possess both the overwhelming power (when he dialed up) with such command and versatility in how he'd pick the wings off a butterfly, so to speak. He's Roy Jones Jr of baseball pitchers. That circle change was just FILTH. His 3rd best - the curve - most No. 1 SP's would kill to have as their out-pitch.

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