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Old 12-06-2012, 04:29 AM   #268
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Default Re: Best cherry pickers of all time.

Originally Posted by JeanPaulValley View Post
Old Mercer beat Lewis. Punchstats? What like the HBO compubox which is endlessly criticized and insulted? Please. The people know. I know because I watch that fight. Even Holyfield said Mercer won.
"The people know". I absolutely guarantee you that if you started a poll asking who won that fight on this forum, Lewis would win the poll.

"Lennox Lewis wound up winning a unanimous decision against Evander HolyfieldSaturday evening at the Thomas & Mack Center, but this time many observers - including this one - didn't think he deserved it. In fact, for a large portion of a fierce brawl marked by dramatic ebbs and flows, Holyfield outhustled, outslugged and out-thought his plodding opponent and almost sent him to the canvas in a classic seventh round that had the crowd of 17,916 in a shrieking uproar... The punch statistics favored Lewis, with Lewis credited with throwing 490 and connecting on 195, compared to 416 and 137 for Holyfield. But these numbers are unreliable, since they're rung up at ringside by two guys punching computer buttons."

And the AP scored the fight for Lewis, 116-113. So what? Of course you can find a presscard for Holyfield. The fight was not a wide victory. But again, "the people" generally score the fight for Lennox Lewis.

"Even Evander Holyfield didn't dispute it when all three judges voted for Lewis and made him the undisputed heavyweight champion. In the first fight, Holyfield complained that his performance was affected by leg cramps. There were no excuses this time."


Why do you think if you find ONE press article that agrees with you, you have the result "right" beyond all dispute? It's absolutely ridiculous. I've produced two cards that have it for Lewis, are you now about to change your mind about who won?

Let me tell you. Lewis resume on paper is brilliant. When you look into the circumstances of his fights it gets shady. If people rank him based on paper resume,they're dumb.
EVERY fighter can begin to look "shady" if you belive the extreme points of view available for their big fights. Muhammad Ali -

Won against Liston because Sonny threw both fights.
Lost the only meaningful fight between himself and Frazier.
Lost two out of three to Norton who was robbed at least once.
Beat Foreman on a dodgy count and ducked a rematch. Foreman was drugged.
Robbed Young and Shavers.
Beat a past-prime Patterson because he had a dodgy back.
Lost to Doug Jones and was given a gift on the cards.
Would have lost to Cooper if he hadn't been given extra time to rest between rounds.

All of these individual exaggerations, lies and speculations can be found on the internet in "print" if you look hard enough. If you chose to believe them all you are a ****ing idiot. That is what you do where Lennox Lewis is concerned.

There were many reports that Tyson wasn't in shape,wasn't mentally prepared etc Tyson-Lewis should not have happened. Tyson was a drug addict and was 10 years past his prime. He also hadnt had a meaningful win since what? Seldon or Bruno? Tyson's fights before Lewis should were not enough to warrant a title shot. Lewis just wanted a name on his resume-even if the name was of a washed up drug addict.
He was also universally recognised as one of the best HW's in the world, generally ranked at #2 and the fight was one of the most sought after in boxing history. Your'e an idot to say it shouldn't have happened, and if Lewis had passed on it you would be whining about his ducking a washed up drug addict. The fight was completely inevitable and of course it should have happened.
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