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Old 12-08-2012, 05:27 PM   #92
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Default Re: Jeffries v Quarry

Originally Posted by edward morbius View Post
"Never heard anyone say Jerry was overrated"

There is always a first time.

"very deep era"

He was beaten by Ellis, who was a puffed up middleweight with a mediocre record at middle.

The real big names of the era--Ali, Frazier, Norton--destroyed him--Liston-He did not fight Liston. Machen--beat him. Chuvalo--ko'd him.

He was never one of the top three active heavies, if that high. Ellis was better and I once watched Ellis lose to Don Fullmer on TV.

*Quarry "toughness"

He was stopped 6 times in 66 fights (all before reaching 30)--that is simply not the record of a super tough fighter.
Ellis scaled 201lbs when he fought Frazier for all the titles, that is heavier than any class man Jeffries ever beat. Three of Quarry's six stoppage losses were by cut eyes. Quarry fought every hard puncher that would fight him , Foreman and Liston did not. Quarry beat Foster,Lyle and Shavers, three of the biggest punchers of their era, none of the three floored him.

Quarry was beaten by Machen when he was a kid ,and lost to Norton when he was on the way down.
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