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Old 12-08-2012, 06:19 PM   #94
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Default Re: Jeffries v Quarry

Originally Posted by edward morbius View Post
"Never heard anyone say Jerry was overrated"

There is always a first time.

"very deep era"

He was beaten by Ellis, who was a puffed up middleweight with a mediocre record at middle.

The real big names of the era--Ali, Frazier, Norton--destroyed him--Liston-He did not fight Liston. Machen--beat him. Chuvalo--ko'd him.

He was never one of the top three active heavies, if that high. Ellis was better and I once watched Ellis lose to Don Fullmer on TV.

*Quarry "toughness"

He was stopped 6 times in 66 fights (all before reaching 30)--that is simply not the record of a super tough fighter.
This is what happens when you have a lot of fights in a very tough era, there are losses when you fight the best and often. 23 fights against 170 lb. men that on some occasions you barely s****e home doesn't leave much for discourse.
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