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Old 12-09-2012, 06:26 PM   #26
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Default Re: Was Leonards win over Tommy Hearns his greatest accomplishment.?

Originally Posted by MAG1965 View Post
well like you said you would be more impressed with a win over Norris or Nunn since they were faster and younger and Ray could not use tactics much to win. With Marvin he was quicker. In retrospect we all think that because Hagler was older and inactive and ready to retire, but at the time we saw him as the same Hagler who stopped Hearns 2 years before.

I am not sure Ray didn't belong in the ring with him, He timed his style and knew how to fight him. As a matter of fact, I think part of Ray taking off time was yes, waiting for Marvin to slip a little but also Ray had to be a solid 160 to hold Hagler when he came in close. In round one I think it was, I remember Ray pushing Hagler and Marvin flew. I that told me Ray was strong at the weight.
of that there is no doubt. so while Leonard had the win over another name fighter, it was a name fighter whose abilities were depleted. My standards are somewhat higher than some others here on the forum. as someone here said, "I am suitably impressed with a win over a slow Hagler". They're (Leonard fans) just not very discriminating

no way in hell was he anything close to the version of the Hearns fight. I remember the following morning Marvin was on either GMA or the Today show and Leoanrd was seated next to him. marvin looked him in the eye and said "you cheated the public by refusing to face me". Sugar didnt object; he didnt have the courage to.
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