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Old 12-15-2012, 06:50 AM   #571
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Default Re: Discuss fighters Jones Jr ducked in his prime

Originally Posted by Loudon View Post
Bat, you're putting up a good fight, and that's good, because I love debating, but it's all there in black and white.

I read quite a lot of your posts on other subjects, before I started debating with you, so I know you're not an idiot. It seems quite clear to everyone but you and Bailey (who'd swear that black was white) what went on.

I'm assuming you're just having a bit of fun.

It's obvious that the double header would have promoted the fight, and made it a huge event.

Murad has told us roughly what DM was making.

Now are you seriously implying (after reading 5 articles and watching a video) that you think the double header would have been only for €500K with no guaranteed shot after?


Kohl dismissed the double header straight away which was stupid, because it proved that Roy and HBO wanted to hype he fight to make it big. It's literally the worst hing he could have done.
I'm quite sure now that you do not have any credible source telling us that Kohl dismissed the offer without looking at it.

Let's put things into perspective.

Murad has told us what he was roughly fighting for.

Now go and pull up his resume.

He was fighting for not a lot of money, against B Class opposition in Germany, he then gets offered a chance to promote a fight with Roy in a double header, then Kohl takes offence (conveniently) and says DM's too good to fight on an undercard. Really Peter? You're guy's above fighting on an undercard, yet he fights nobodies in Germany for €1M. Ha! That's what I'd have said if I'd have been there. It's laughable!
But how can you say that when you do not know the offer? You dont know the offer!

Kohl's a successful businessman. He would never have mad a decision like that, UNLESS it was an excuse because DM didn't want the fight.
Or maybe he just had no guaranteed shot at Jones afterwards?

Would you take the undercard slot for less than you make normally without a guaranteed Jones-shot?

I sure would not knowing Jones elusiveness at the negotiating table. Who's to say that Jones wouldn't back out and tell everyone that he'd now pursue a shot at Holyfield/Tyson/Lewis instead?

I'd say Kohl would be a terrible businessman if just took such an offer.

He continued to fight nobodies after the talks broke down.

What does that say to you? I know what it says to me.

It's as clear as the nose on my face.

Kohl put up the roadblock, because they didn't want it.

If you can't work that out, go and see your Doctor.

People are going to start calling you Dailey soon, the Danish Bailey.

Regards, Loudon.
Or Jones just did not want to commit. That's another possible explanation for those of us who don't take the words from one of the parties as gospel.
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