Originally Posted by Manning
Haye ahead of Povetkin in the rankings?
Sheer nonsense. Ridiculous rankings and I really see no point in scrolling down any further to check the rest. Obviously too many people with an agenda are responsible for these rankings.
Ranking Haye ahead of Povetkin H2H is anything but nonsense....it's pretty much consensus. Ranking Haye ahead of Povetkin on the basis of accomplishment IS a stretch.
here are some of the stated guidelines
- Differentiating between a fighter’s winning streak and current form will be a matter of debate by the Board.
- In those instances where a contender is inactive for one year or more, he will be removed from the rankings until such time as he fights and earns back a place in the top ten. Exceptions for medical issues will be considered.
- In those instances where a fighter announces his intention of competing in a new division, he will be removed from his former division’s rankings only after he competes in the new division and his intention remains.
- No fighter earns a place in the top ten by appointment. Name recognition or previous record in a different weight class is not necessarily an indication of performance in a new weight class.
- Although close losses and poor wins may be reflected in the rankings, the Board will refrain from nullifying the official results, with one exception: If over 75% of the Board agrees that the judges’ decision in a non-championship bout is egregious enough to constitute a “robbery,” then the official winner may be ranked lower than the official loser. At least eleven votes are needed for a quorum.
The first point seems to imply that "current form" (as distinguished from pure accomplishment) plays a role in the rankings. Should we interpret that to mean that H2H ability plays a part in the rankings? Cause it's hard to rank Haye ahead of Povetkin and Adamek without taking subjective stuff like "form" and "h2h" and "controversial wins" into account.
The last point will also make for interesting debate. By these criteria Chisora should have been ranked ahead of Helenius (before he lost 2 fights in a row afterwards anyway). Should Chambers be ranked ahead of Adamek? Or to go with an even closer fight, should Lebedev be ranked ahead of Huck?