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Old 12-19-2012, 03:48 AM   #38
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Default Re: Jack Dempsey vs James Toney @ 190 Catchweight

Originally Posted by brnxhands View Post
Nothing special crusier and above? Why did he take out the best cruiser in the world undefeated Jirov. Beat samuel peter. beat rahman, beat ruiz. More like underrated. He should have been champion .
He didn't beat Rahman when Rahman was any good. He beat an over-the-hill Rahman in a meaningless fight between two has-beens in 2008 (actually changed to an NC, when Rahman quit with a cut after 3 easy rounds). They fought over two years earlier, and Rahman was unlucky to only get a draw, imo. I thought Rahman beat Toney quite clearly in 2006.

Officially he went 0-2 against Peter, but I thnk he won the first fight, making it 1-1. He beat Peter, imo, in a close fight in 2006, but in the rematch a few months later he was beat in a clear and decisive manner.

He beat Ruiz fair enough. And Jirov was his best win ever above 160.
But I'm not sure this record proves him to be anything special.
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