Originally Posted by burt bienstock
Did less than Hagler did as a middleweight ? I think not. Just get a copy of "the Fearless Harry Greb", and you will see the terrific middleweights that Greb licked...Dozens of the top MWS of his early and middle years...And some of Britain's finest also...He loved to fight so he would tackle bigger men to keep busy, any size, any style, any colour to keep active....But when required he trained more to get under 160 to defend his crown...
The thread reads "Greatest MW once and for all", not who more>
And Greb's MW challengers were as good if not better than you think...
achievement is a measure of greatness, as is resume and skillset. I can't argue Greb above Hagler on any of those 3 criteria under the mw limit.
Now if you're trying to argue who the greatest boxer to ever compete in the mw divsion is, well I'd say Greb is above Hagler in that category but below ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong.