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Old 12-27-2012, 01:12 PM   #98
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Default Re: Greatest Middleweight once and for all- Greb? Monzon? Hagler?

Originally Posted by HOUDINI View Post
Let's not forget Ketchel. Fleischer and others who saw both Greb and Ketchel rated Stanley the great middleweight.
A lot of Nat Fleischer was based around Jack Johnson who he rated very highly even for those times, I guess the fact that Ketchel dropped Johnson and some of Ketchels wars left an impression in Nat's mind.....Greb was a tough German and his resume is incredible while Stan was cut a bit shorter although both died too young...I spoke to Nat Fleischer many times and he saw many fighters as a young man that others did not see but we all may have a bias to certain era's or era's we were told about as young men.

IMO they were both were outstanding fighters and ATG's and top 5 middleweights
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