Originally Posted by Synthetic Decay
Monzon spent his whole career fighting smaller guys and his style was based on fighting tall, dictating range and being the bigger man. It's not a style suited to going through the weights.
Greb is the greatest middleweight, he spent most of his career fighting and beating naturally bigger fighters than himself.
Hagler was a fantastic fighter too, but in comparison to Greb's exploits, not quite enough was done, once again a lot of his defining victories were against guys moving up in weight.
Monzon should never be voted above Greb, there is no criteria to do so. Also the logic that if you beat a lightheavy while being able to make middleweight, isn't reflective of your impressiveness as a middle, is lost on me.
SD, I too cannot fathom someone wouldn't be impressed by a middleweight that beats all middleweights at his best and has the remarkable ability to spot HOF lightheavyweights and heavyweights like a Billy Miske, Bill Brennan, etc and whip them ? Greb by ALL who fought him and wrote about him, was a unique middleweight with an unparalleled speed and toughness. Cheers.