Originally Posted by Nightcrawler
true. but he was angling for a shot at the time and was handcuffed (ketchel wasn't going ***** out either)
just the fact that he was able to do that and knock out flowers makes me think he was extremely capable at 160.
i'm skewed a little lighter with langford, i feel his best weight was probably 180-185
Yeah I'd he's capable but enough so to favour over a great like Hagler at the mw limit? I don't see it. His body of work in the division is nigh on non existant.
I think he hit his stride as a genuine hw when he was the outstanding challenger to Johnson.
I haven't checked his record for a while so I'm unsure what he weighed between 1911 and 1915. But the weight during that time is when I'd say he was at his best.