Originally Posted by lufcrazy
Yeah I'd he's capable but enough so to favour over a great like Hagler at the mw limit? I don't see it. His body of work in the division is nigh on non existant.
I think he hit his stride as a genuine hw when he was the outstanding challenger to Johnson.
I haven't checked his record for a while so I'm unsure what he weighed between 1911 and 1915. But the weight during that time is when I'd say he was at his best.
based on resume and body of work? bang on. and without footage we have little to go on but i just feel that the skills he had, and his demonstrated ability against fighters when he was coming up, we can extrapolate a bit
if he could beat gans and "draw" with walcott when he was lighter and younger, than by 160 he could have the physical tools (read: ridiculous strength), timing and power to give hagler hell. he may not be nearly as complete as he would become but i give him a shot