Originally Posted by Tin_Ribs
My grandad used to sometimes drink at Wood****'s pub in Doncaster and was quite friendly with him after he'd retired. I vaguely remember meeting him as a young kid and he seemed a nice fella; very quietly spoken and down to earth.
My grandad - whose opinions on boxing I always respected massively - always said he thought that Bruce would've turned out better had he been born elsewhere with access to better training and better management. He used to train in shocking conditions upstairs in a barn that was built at the back of a pub named The Plough in a village near Doncaster. As has already been said, he was moved too far too quickly by Solomons and was mainly in the game to earn money for his family and kids despite having no great love for it. South Yorkshire was a desperately poor area in those days.
Whatever Wood****'s limitations, he did have a world class right hand. I met Brian Blessed, a very good amateur himself, at a Q & A evening at my local village theatre a few years back. He knew Wood**** well and apparently had a few conversations with Joe Louis about him. Said that Joe admired Wood**** and told him he thought Bruce hit hard enough to spark anyone with his right hand. And that he could have done more if he'd been trained and managed better, which ties in well with what's already been said.
Anyway, **** Haye, whether he would've beaten Wood**** or not. Bruce was a far classier bloke out of the ring at least.
Have enjoyed reading posts like this and the comments of the likes of choklab & unforgiven.
I don't know who would win out of Haye & Wood**** but I have FAR more respectr for Wood**** as a man and a boxer.
Personally I think Haye now just uses boxing, boxes just enough to keep himself in the celebrity limelight, so he can go on **** programmes like "I'm A Celebrity" (please!!!) and keep his nam high profile.
Haye has crossed over to wider public recognition in the UK, but that's because he knows how to market himself and cosmetically looks the part, I was talking to my ex the other day and she said she had seen Haye on "I'm A Celebrity", her first comment was "what an ****"...or maybe she was talking about me, not Haye's behind???