Originally Posted by ROACH
A guy with Joe's style doesn't have the same type of longevity as a guy like Wlad for instance that can use his height and reach.
Short guys like Frazier and Tyson, would have beat Wlad, Tyson would have done it destructively, but they don't have the same type of longevity.
At his best though, Joe Frazier was on of the greatest heavyweights in history.
One of the greatest HW's in history at his best? He is 1-2 against a horribly dimished Ali, and 0-2 against Foreman, making him 1-4 against ATGs.
What other wins does he have to be called a great? Jimmy Ellis and Jerry Quarry? Who considers them all time greats? He narrowly beat Bonavena, who knocked him down twice, who considers Bonavena a great?
He has absolutely NOTHING on his resume to justify being called an all time great.