Who is higher in your ATG rankings - Vicente Salvidar or Carlos Ortiz?
Famous losses: Eder Jofre, Shibata
Nicolino Locche (yes, Carlos won)
Duilio Loi 1 (lost the rivalry)
Other VERY solid contenders
Famous losses: Duilio Loi, Carlos Teo Cruz, (Ken Buchanan doesn't count, Carlos was completely shot), all other losses were avenged
1. Who is higher and
2. Where do you rate the one you rate highest, in your ATG rankings
For me, I am starting to think Carlos Ortiz could be in my Top 50 ATG (near 50 ish).
His only real loss to me, is Ortiz-Loi 3.