Originally Posted by lufcrazy
Quite often I post from memory and not boxrec which means I make errors. I thought Valdes was big enough to consider a shw, if I'm wrong then fair enough. But my main point is Rocky has very little evidence of his effectiveness against the truly big men. Valdes was bigger and gives a bit more indication I feel.
I doubt Wlad will ever come near Louis, Ali nor Lewis. But Rocky, Johnson, Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, these guys he can overtake in my opinion. I don't hold the Vitali situation against him and whilst he never fought Lewis when younger it was because he couldn't generate the money of Tyson, didn't become a mandatory with the WBC and perhaps most importantly got iced by Sanders. He'd have been iced by Lewis as well. However from 05 onwards he's begun to really clean house. Victories over Povetkin and Arreola would underline that status. As long as he continues to defend against the best available opposition his legacy will grow.
Valdes was 6' 3" or so and about 207-215 most of the time.
Louis was 6' 2" and 213 for Marciano.
Bob Baker was 6' 2" and 210 and defeated Valdes twice.
But Valdes was beaten twice by Moore and also by Satterfield, and Baker was ko'd by both Moore and Satterfield. Weill tried to talk up a Baker fight with Marciano in 1955 but the press and public demanded that Moore get the shot.