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Old 02-02-2013, 04:00 AM   #195
dempsey1234
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Default Re: I am a boxing manager: if you have questions about the boxing biz, ask!

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Dempsey.

You seem to be on the level, and I like what you've written so far. Thanks, this is a GREAT contribution to ESB !

So, I have a sort of open-ended question for you. Maybe you have some thoughts:

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We are all frustrated by the careers of promising young prospects, who never seem to face decent opponents. Two names that immediately come to mind are Denis Boytsov & Deontay Wilder. - Both are high risk / low reward options for any opponent to take on, and so it becomes difficult to get them the fights they need in order to progress. I think David Price is in the same situation, to some extent, and it may soon be the case for Bogdan Dinu, who is now trying to be a full-time boxer.

Many here blame the fighters themselves, but obviously this is the "fault" of their management, the promoters, the networks, and mostly the state of the sport itself.

If you were managing one of these fighters, how would you go about getting them better opponents? IMO, the management has to "throw money" at the problem. In other words, offer a potential opponent a huge guaranteed payday even if it means they lose money on a few fights. - but of course I am just talking out my butt, for the most part, having no knowledge of the real "backroom" workings of the sport.

In the case of Wilder, I am stunned that GBP has not been able to make something happen in over 2 years.

In Boytsov's case, there's the whole Universum debacle, which is a topic unto itself.
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So, any thoughts on this?
Yes I have lot of thoughts on this, I have to face this myself with my guys, first thing you have to understand is boxing in the amateurs is a sport, boxing in the pro's is a business. I will answer each question in different posts.
Boytsov has fought the better opposition and seems to be learning. Wilder on the other hand seems to be a harder puncher but after 27 fights still really hasn't faced anybody worthie, he is still winging his shots. The two would be a snack for either of the Klitschko's. Boytsov is 26, and Wilder is 27 so both are relativily young. Of the two I would say Boytsov is being brought along better. Boytsov is fighting veteran fighters and going rounds.

"Both are high risk / low reward options for any opponent to take on" Good opponents are lining up and drooling at the prospect of taking their "0's".
Boytsov while taking it slow is at least learning from going the rounds with beatable but useful oppts, Wilder thinks he can ko anyone, which should be his undoing when he meets somebody who won't be intimdated by his power, since he swings for the rafters he leaves himself open for counters. As far as getting the fights they need, they both have promoters who have deep pockets, which means they can pay anybody to come in to fight them. The promoter and manager have big investments in each fighter and seem to have no confidence in their ability to win against a better oppt. So they tend to go slow so they could pick their shots, which frustrates fan's but fan's have to realize both managers and promoters are protecting their investments.
I will give you a more detailed response Sunday. One of my guys is fighting Saturday, and my focus is him right now.
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