Originally Posted by Johnstown
back in the 50s they would have basketball players practice shots and passes with medicine balls...the theory being that it would make your shots and passes more powerful and all (and if you ever tried to take a half court shot [which you shouldn't really be doing much anyhow, other than if you only have a second left] you will know it does take some power). I am sure those throws did make guys stronger, but some of the first real application of sports science showed that you actually screw up your throwing mechanics using a medicine ball instead of a basketball for shots..hence you might get stronger but less accurate. A case where trying to be sports more specific is actually worse than the less sports specific alternative (like lifting or body weight exercise for improving strength..because those won't confuse your neuro muscle system for the throw).
I have never seen any studies on it..but i suspect it might be the same for boxing with weights. Now having said that...I use to do it all the time..and after i would do it for a few rounds I would go and shadow box without weights and "feel" much faster..but I suspect that was just a psychological illusion.
Anyhow...i would say some weights would be a good idea..but no more than whatever the gloves you will be wearing will weight...12 oz or whatever...
heck..good pros actually wear fight weight gloves in sparring (although usually the paid sparring partners still have to weigh 16 oz, I read that about Pac..i suspect it is for the reason above).
anyhow....paradoxically...i suspect medicine ball throws are good for boxing..because its far enough away from the boxing movement as to now really screw up the mechanics of the punch (but thats just me guessing).
Anyhow....just weight for dealt with....I am sure he will come in...make some comment about me being fat..and than tell you truth
Thanks for the response mate, The basketball example is interesting, and I always thought this could be the case with boxing, when you are tired usually your technique declines so by tiring your arms with weights I would guess it would be the same.
I agree with you when you say you feel faster because I feel the same when I do it. However I think this may just be from the weight being removed. The same concept as carrying a heavy suitcase and then dropping it, your arm feels lighter but realistically all you've done is drop the weight.. that's what I think anyway but it really isn't based on anything.
Yes I've heard that about Pac too, I think he wears 14 oz in sparring, the concept makes sense and assuming you are paying your sparring partner enough that he doesn't mind I don't really see the problem (From Pac's perspective).
I think it would be very hard to accurately measure the increase (if there was any) in speed seeing as there are so many variables and if it was proven to increase speed would this be worth the potential decrease in technique?