Originally Posted by Tommo
No mate I am certainly not. I would stake a huge bet that if we had a pressure test for them, Holy would certainly rate higher than Louis. I don't LIKE having to rely on size but pull up Louis on wiki and look at his picture hard. Anybody who thinks this guy, considering Holy was a pro boxer and the champ, no matter how good his technique was could hit as hard as Holy has to be absolutely brainwashed!
If you adjust Louis' KOratio appropriately, you'll find he was a decent puncher but nothing special.
In fact most all of these all time greats aren't anything so special they could transgress many eras... They are simply FAMOUS and now... HYPED!
This may not impress you.
Joe Louis held the title for eleven years and 8 months. Not the IBF, WBA, or WBC. No. He held the only title. The same one that John L. Sullivan held. Joe beat everyone that held the title before that were still fighting including cleaning and recleaning out his division and the lightheavyweight division for good measure. For eleven years! I think that is still a boxing record. 23 title defenses out of 25 were KO's. I that is a record as well. He lost a few prime year to WWI BTW. Would have been maybe 30.
The next champion after Joe was Ezzard Charles who was born in 1921. He was 16 when Louis won the title in 1937. Louis was probably his boyhood hero. The next 11 years after Joe had 6 different heavyweight champions. Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Johansson, and Liston.
All of these men were GREAT fighters with the exception of Johansson. This is why Louis is so famous? Because he was the greatest until Ali came along. One comes close to those two.
As undesputed champions:
Mike Tyson was it for 2 years and 6 months (then KO'ed by Buster Douglas)
Lennox Lewis was the undesputed champion for 1 year (then KO'ed by Hasim Rahman)
Evander Holyfield: 2 years then losing the Bowe. (No shame in this one)
That totals a combined 5 years and change as undesputed champions from the three GREAT fighters.
What do you think of all this? Is Joe is a overated bum...along with all of the other old-time fighters, or with your clear rational mind will you concede that people who are in awe of this man Joe Louis have some good reason for it?