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Old 10-21-2013, 06:20 PM   #168
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Default Re: Prime James J. Jeffries vs Jack Johnson

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Originally Posted by mcvey View Post
Where do you get the idea Fitz refused a fight with Jeffries?
Remember the backwards and forwards before Klitschko Haye?

Exactly the nsame thing happened with Jeffries Fitzsimmons II.

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He was desperate for one, god almighty he fought the number 1 and 2 contenders in the space of two weeks and kod them both! Do you think he did that because he wasn't interested in a title shot?
He was making a lot of money destroying the contenders, and he was determined to get his price for a Jeffries rematch.


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Fitz lost the first round against Ruhlin, in fact he was floored at the end of it, plus he sustained a cut over his eye and a bloody mouth.

Ruhlin came out full of confidence for the second and the battering began,Ruhlin was down 4 times in the fight ,Fitz because his hands were bad, relied mostly on body shots to weaken the 9 years younger man. Ruhlin was not counted out the referee did not bother to start one so thoroughly unconscious was Ruhlin at the end, he was dragged back to his stool .
Fitz began to become concerned about Ruhlin's condition and went over to his corner but Ruhlin was out to the world. It was ten minutes before he could be assisted out of the ring.
After the fight Ruhlin spent the night at the arena,[MSG ] to weak to travel,the next day he was removed to Billy Madden his manager's cottage where he stayed in bed for a week.
You don't need to sell me the idea that Ruhlin took a bad beating.

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A fortnight after this Fitz took out Sharkey in 2 rds. Fitz walked over to Jim Jeffries who was sitting ringside and said ,"You'll give me a fight now ,Jim won't you? Get up and shake hands on it"Jeffries remained seated, "Get up Jim and shake" Fitz repeated, leaning over the ropes.The crowd took up his cry, urging Jeffries to respond with no way to escape Jeffries finally rose and grasped Fitz's gloved hand,and the crowd applauded.
But the bottom line is that Fitz refused if the terms wern't to his likling.

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And you say Fitz didnt want the fight!
I am not saying that he didn't want it, but he was obviously prepared to wait to get more money.

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So what happened? Fitz had just kod both the top contenders inside two weeks .
The public wanted it.

Jeffries seems to have been willing.

Fitz ultimately delayed it.

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Who does Jeffries fight? He has an exhibition with Griffn, then takes on his sparring partner Tom Kennedy. A year after Fitz turned this incredible feat ,Jeffries defended his title but not against Fitz but the man he had beat unconscious, Ruhlin.
The best man who would agree to fight him.

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Fitz had to wait two years before Jeffries finally gave him a rematch, by which time he was all but 40.
No, Fitz chose to wait two years!

Incredible as it sounds, it seems to be true.

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After the Sharkey fight Fitz gave an interview in his dressing room. Here is part of it.
" I mean to become champion of the world again, and the only man now in the way is Jim Jeffries.He whipped me once but I don't think he will do it again When we met I had not fought in a couple of years and naturally was not in the best of condition.But I am in great form now and really think that if we meet againI would come out on top.In fact I held Jeffries too cheaply , but I learned a lesson and will not be caught napping next time.If they give me enough money I guess I will be ready to fight Jeffries sometime inside the next six months,"[ he would have to wait two years, and once again was coming out of two years inactivity when he finally got his chance.
The operative term is "if they give me enough money".
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