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Old 10-21-2013, 08:42 PM   #169
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Default Re: Prime James J. Jeffries vs Jack Johnson


Remember the backwards and forwards before Klitschko Haye?

Exactly the nsame thing happened with Jeffries Fitzsimmons II.

He was making a lot of money destroying the contenders, and he was determined to get his price for a Jeffries rematch.

You don't need to sell me the idea that Ruhlin took a bad beating.

But the bottom line is that Fitz refused if the terms wern't to his likling.

I am not saying that he didn't want it, but he was obviously prepared to wait to get more money.

The public wanted it.

Jeffries seems to have been willing.

Fitz ultimately delayed it.

The best man who would agree to fight him.

No, Fitz chose to wait two years!

Incredible as it sounds, it seems to be true.

The operative term is "if they give me enough money".

You couldn't be more wrong on this. Fitz didnt choose to wait two years at all he was ready to fight Jeffries 6 months after koing Sharkey in 2 rds.
Fitz was then 37 ,Jeffries 25 ,time was not on Fitz's side.

You need to read up on this because you have it completely **** about face.

Jeffries signed up for a lucrative theatrical tour,and 37 years old Fitz was left out in the cold.

The reason Fitz was in the ring with Ruhlin was Jim Corbett's idea, he persuaded Billy Madden Ruhlin's manager that Ruhlin by beating Fitz would force Jeffries to fight him.

Fitz was a terrible business man and lost out on several purses, for instance the Sharkey rematch was a $25,000 winner take all deal.Fitz was persuaded to take a 50/50 split, so his purse was reduced to $12,500.

Did you know that Fitz met Ruhlin again 10 months later?
It was a wrestling match, Fitz was giving Ruhlin 20 lbs .The mens heads came together the first time they clinched, Ruhlin reeled back with a bloody nose.Fitz seeing the blood ,forgot all about wrestling and punched Ruhlin in the face with his bare fist.The referee Charley White warned Fitz who told him to "get out of the way"and they swapped blows with Gus getting the worst of it.Ruhlin then pinned the lighter Fitz's arms by his sides and tried to force him down for a fall.They went down in a tangle with Fitz on top. quickly back on their feet they started trading punches.
Ruhlin grabbed Fitz and slammed him down to the mat taking his breath away and gaining the first fall .
After the rest, Ruhlin moved in to use his superior weight on Fitz but Fitz slugged him in the solar plexus.
Ruhlin grabbed Fitz by the throat and tried to strangle him, Fitz got home with another body shot and Ruhlin let go of his grip but Fitz had no breathe left in him .
Ruhlin leapt forward, grabbed Fitz picked him up and threw him down then dropped on top to gain the second fall, and the match. Jeffries finally got around to defending against Fitzsimmons ,the fight was in Jeffries home town of San Francisco, 3 years after their first fight.
Fitz's chief sparring partner for the return was Hank Griffin.

By the way the weights announced for the fighters was Jeffries 215, Fitz 160 . Bit different from Box rec

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