Originally Posted by choklab
Liston had a wonderful jab. A real potent step in jab. Superb against upright, conventional boxers stranded at range. There is not much evidence that it was the kind of jab that was effective against Awkward crouching crowding opponents trained by Charlie Goldman.
Remember Joe Louis against charlie Goldman trained Atrturo Godoy?
There is zero evidence that Marciano could handle a 200lbs plus hevayweight with an 84" jab who could match him for power,and was , in his prime.
I think you are in denial.