Originally Posted by choklab
This is based on fair observation rather than assumption and generalisation.
To be honest about things Marciano gives Sonny a tough fight any way you look at it.
Those that say Marciano gets blown away won't aknowledge Liston had competative fights. They won't aknowledge the frozen, psyched out factor effect on performers who let them selves down and allowed Liston to have his way.
I would not dream of using the Marciano v Walcott rematch as evidence of Rockys prowess because it was a blow out over a good opponent who never got going and his heart was not in it.....yet Listons entire career is based on two such fights!
Who says Marciano gets blown away? I don't,I say he gets beat because stylistically Liston is all wrong for him.
You talk about Liston's opponents as though they were all beat before he got in the ring was that the case with Williams?Valdes? King, Besmanoff,Dejohn?
Liston had competititive fights who said he didnt?
Would you say Marcianos' defences against Moore,Walcott and Charles were non - competitive? How about Lastarza 1 & Lowry1?
Competitive or not?
And you then talk about assumptions, and generalisations.Oh my!