Originally Posted by brownpimp88
Wow a single off-night and he's all of a sudden a lesser fighter?
Qawi and Eddie Mustafa were p4p fighters and are a class above antuofermo and minter, the two best middleweights that hagler beat. Even if Eddie was weight drained, a win is a win and its his fault that he allowed himself to get fat. Marvin Johnson is also better than most 'middleweights' that Hagler beat.
Eitherway, Spinks could have seriously been a top 15 p4per, he just allowed that Tyson loss get to him.
Which is precisely why Spinks could have never reached those heights. There's more to a fighter than skill, they have to have the determination, heart, and courage to go with it and unfortunately for Michael, he was scared going into his fight with Tyson. Ali and Liston was an exact replica of the same situation, but whereas Ali was able to overcome his fear, Michael Spinks just froze and got knocked out. Spinks had the skillset to be better than he ended up being, but he lacked courage.
The most saddening downfall of a fighter for me is Muhammad Ali. Watching somebody of his ability and importance to the sport go out on his shield was both humbling and sad.
The downfall of Barrera wasn't all that bad because he was competitive with Juan Manuel Marquez, and just proved that he could survive against the younger and hungrier Manny Pacquiao. I hope he stays retired, but if he doesn't, I'll support him through thick and thin.
Sugar Ray Leonard's downfall was awful. Some uneducated fool said earlier that he wasn't shot when he lost to both Norris and Camacho, but anybody who's seen Leonard's fights with Benitez, Hearns, and Hagler know that was not the Sugar Man. He would made short work of both Camacho and Norris had it been 10 years earlier, so to watch him get knocked out by Camacho, who wasn't a big puncher, was terrible.
Joe Louis getting knocked out cold by Marciano was bad, as was Mike Tyson's loss to Mcbride. Can you imagine what Tyson would have done to that guy in '88? Would have been a massacre.