Originally Posted by unitas
the champs mentioned do get respect, but like all top fighters they are viewed by the highest standards. and thats why not all views on them are completely positive.
but calzaghe is viewed as a guy who refuses to fight the best. that seemed to change with his fight with lacy........but since then he has gone back to fighting nobodies again.
kahn gets tons up hype........but most people no longer buys it cause he fights only guys who cant punch.
that has become so obvious just about everyone thinks something is wrong with his chin. and his fight with super feather willie limond wont change that.
haye is viewed as just another banger with a chin of china....and that may be the truth. he has no future at heavy. and at cruiser no one really views him as the man to beat a guy like mormeck.
duddy is fun to watch, but his fight with ancient yory boy campas showed his limitations.
so whats to get excited about?? can he beat abraham or taylor?? next to no one thinks so.
there are better prospects like pavlik and asikainen.
macca is basically as one of the biggest jokes in boxing!!!! holds a decent belt......but never fought a world class fighter in his life!!! then he fights perhaps the worst challenger one could think of in bobby gunn.........a guy straight off the carnival circuit.
this guy gets no respect..........and for a good reason:He deserves none.
froch on the other hand gets more respect abroad than in britain. in german boxing mags he is ranked number four in the world......right behind the champs and ahead of a guy like bute!!! thats some respect. in britain i guess he is hated cause he is so arrogant, but one needs to distinguish between personality and actual talent. the latter of which he has enough.
"amazing alex" arthur is another of the guys who got a lot of hype without actually doing something. sure he holds a euro belt, but that doesn´t make him a threat to the top guns of the devision.
and most (myself included) view him as overprotected. after all, he is in his prime now. if you want people to get excited about him, let him tangle with a top gun. go for either pacman, marquez, valero or guzman. or at least say humberto soto and rocky suarez.
but who is he fighting??? koba gogolatze. so why should he get the respect that others fighters get, fighters that are willing to go down the hard road??
so this is basically the problem all european boxers face, the perception of overprotection:
that european fighters get manufunctured up the ratings, fight for a bogus belt (in arthurs case the vacant WBO belt) against suspect figthers. then they defend the belt against undeserving challengers.........and start calling out the top names. but when push comes to shove they have no intention of actually fighting anybody.
examples: felix sturm, sergej dzinziruk, stipe drews.
So the only way to get respect is to go to america? True but look at the bums that have respect over thier without actually earning it i.e. lacy pre calzaghe, tony ect the list is endless.