Originally Posted by dmille
1. Graziano only 29 when he fought him, so just how "past it" was he?
2. Marty Servo, Jake LaMotta and Kid Gavilan were NOT past it when he fought them.
3. Basilio was already a two-time WORLD welterweight champion, who had won two Ring "fight of the year" fights in a row and was also in a "round of the year". I say that he was already well known AND great before he fought SRR.
Both their fights ended in split decisions. If Carmen had lost both rather than going 1-1, they would be argued to this day. Hell, look at all the draws and unanimous nods that are still argued! And if he lost the first and hadn't gotten a RE, many would have claimed that Robby ducked him the same way they question why there was no rubber match.
Lamotta was past it when he lost the title to Robinson. Jake was like 32 or something. Rocky had a short prime, and HIGHLY overrated. I say the Rock was pretty well used up by that time. Also the Rock had been knockout a few times. Had Rocky never beating Zale, it would have been other of the mill win for Robinson. But Rocky had the honor of being a name former champ. If you dont get hit with that right hand, the odds were pretty good you win.