Originally Posted by selfkill
I feel Ali always had Liston's number, whether or not they were fixes, the Liston that we saw would have never troubled Ali in a 100 rounds let alone 15. So credit to Clay for that.
Older Ali beat everyone who was their. In his younger years, he had faster feet and faster hands, so it's fair to assume he'd do even better against them pre-exile. Just my opinion.
i agree with your statement, but i think a prime frazier gives any version of ali fits. same with a prime sonny liston. The liston of the 60's could never beat ali i agree