Originally Posted by PetethePrince
That's total BS. Genetics play a big part, yes. But you can get big and strong and look good. No you might not look like Mr. Olympia or Frank Zane but you sure as hell will look lean, ripped, and muscular if you train and diet right. Genetics is important and can only take as far as your capabilities but it doesn't discriminate towards people from looking fit, that's just ridiculous.
Who said anything about not looking fit and huge, if that's the goal, with the right diet 'n exercise, PtP. You just don't get to look like Johnson, Hagler 'n Mundine Sr., for example, if it wasn't in your genes.
The thing that really bothers me (and would keep kids from feeling failures) is that nobody responsible tells 'em they can only reach their maxim physical potential with diet 'n exercise, not clone Harold Johnson.
You're wrong. You can look like Harold Johnson or Marvin Hagler. Obviously everyone can't but most people can if they work hard and diet down. Some people just have to do intense dieting and training. It comes much easier for others, and much harder for some but most anyone can look like Harold Johnson or Hagler with 15 years of training. Some people might have trouble getting as big into a 220ish pound frame without performance enhancers but you can get there. While genetics probably helped Foreman, Norton, and Tyson have awesome builds just be being genetic freaks it doesn't mean you can't achieve that a similiar build without tons of work. Heck, look what weights did for Holyfield. Guy wasn't a freak as a kid and started weights and got much more massive.