Originally Posted by PetethePrince
Of course genetics is important. As diet & hard work is too. However, the idea that you "can't achieve" that status or a Harold Johnson status because of limited genetics is simply untrue. It may take 5-20 years, but you will get there. And adding steriods/supplements you definitely will. Trust me, I've known skinny kids that looked like they could be scrawny forever but they built themselves and much bigger/stronger in just a short period of time (A few years). You'd be surprised what hard work/consistency can do.
I agree with some of that, namely that you can improve radically beyond what you once were, but genetics play a massive role in your ultimate development.
Yes, with training and absolute dedication one can pack on a lot of muscle, but genetics will still ultimately determine how you look.
Pete, go read some of Stuart McRobert's books. It's a bit of an eye-opener as he writes specifically for typical hard gainers. (ie 95% of us) Robert Kennedy is another author who doesn't beat about the bush.
Both state flatly and in no uncertain terms that the genetically average will always be confined to a lesser physique, though one that is still reasonably impressive if 100% dedication is apllied.
Bodybuilding magazines have finally admitted to it as well.
The notion that anyone can look like a Harold Johnson or an Arnold Schwarzenegger if enyielding effort is applied, only that it may take longer, is 100% false.
Oh sure, you may get as big or even bigger, but you won't look the same. You won't look as symmetrical, as proportioned or as vascular. It's just the way it is.