Originally Posted by john garfield
Lemme try 'n clarify, PtP:
With weights, juice and diet a guy should pack on pounds, muscle, 'n get much much much stronger. In some cases, get enormous. But his basic shape, separation 'n muscle bellies will never change.
If he had narrow shoulders -- the frame -- when he started, they'll always be narrow, albeit massive.
In short, unless you have the GENETICS, no amount of exercise, weight lifting, juicing 'n diet will get you to look like Marvin Hagler or Harold Johnson.
This topic had deviated to a fair degree, but let's get back to the crux of the argument, which is what you outlined above.
It's the genetics that ultimately
determine how you look and your growth potential.