Originally Posted by PetethePrince
You're wrong. You can look like Harold Johnson or Marvin Hagler. Obviously everyone can't but most people can if they work hard and diet down. Some people just have to do intense dieting and training. It comes much easier for others, and much harder for some but most anyone can look like Harold Johnson or Hagler with 15 years of training. Some people might have trouble getting as big into a 220ish pound frame without performance enhancers but you can get there. While genetics probably helped Foreman, Norton, and Tyson have awesome builds just be being genetic freaks it doesn't mean you can't achieve that a similiar build without tons of work. Heck, look what weights did for Holyfield. Guy wasn't a freak as a kid and started weights and got much more massive.
That's because Holyfield had the natural genetics to look like that once his mass potential had been unearthed. Most people don't. You're saying anyone can get big/ripped and look like Harold Johnson, Garfield's saying pretty much anyone can get in shape, but if their genetics don't allow it, they won't look similar to perfectly proportioned muscular specimens like Johnson. That is not debatable. If you think otherwise, you're simply mistaken.