Originally Posted by ChrisPontius
Well, it's true that Liston was somewhat undertrained and aging.
But let's not exaggerate. Only one year earlier he still looked immortal in destroying Patterson for the second time. He was only 3 pounds heavier than then.
And his speed has always been somewhat unimpressive to me. No doubt Ali has the punch to keep you honest, but so does Holmes. Holmes is no Clay but he's fast as hell too.
Liston was already past it in the Patterson fights. that was just a case of a bad-style matchup. Liston's prime was between 1957-60. Liston was 35 against Clay. That's over the hill.