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Old 08-18-2009, 12:35 PM   #25
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Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

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Originally Posted by SuzieQ49 View Post
1. There is no evidence Brewster has a better chin than Marciano. If you want to go by "proven" then I can say Marciano is a much more proven puncher and finisher than brewster.
Well, he took massive shots from a 245 pound man who's known as an incredibly hard puncher. Marciano got dropped by Walcott and Moore who, whatever their merits as hitters, were not remotely in Klitschko's league. In the second, he was half-blind and still didn't get knocked out for a ten count.

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2. 3 inches Taller, not 4. Also I do not see the big deal here. Sam Peter is 6'0, only 1" taller than marciano and he floored wladimir 3 times. In fact Marcianos lack of height in his crouch is Ideal. Unlike Brewster who got hit cleanly every single minute of the fight, marciano will be very difficult for wlad to hit with a clean shot.
5'10" vs. 6'2". Or is boxrec wrong about Marciano's height (as it is on occasion with various fighters)? Peter's also 6'2", with a 10 inch reach advantage over Marciano just like Brewster.

On the elusiveness point, I agree. Marciano would be hard to tag cleanly.


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3. Rocky is faster than brewster- I watched Brewster-Liakohkovic last night on ESPN replay, and I was shocked at how slow brewsters hands were and how unnefective he was getting inside(Unlike rocky).
Ineffective at getting inside: yes. Slower? Probably not. I just rewatched Rocky vs. Walcott II and compared it to the first round of Klitschko-Brewster I. Brewster was faster.

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Rocky tracked down master boxers and got undernearth of them much easier than brewster has done to boxers like ettiene, shufford, Sergei, Wlad, etc. certain if you compare film of a 1951-1952 Marciano and Brewster of 00s, rocky has the clear edge in speed.
Speed? No. Savvy, elusiveness, and ability to cut of the ring more like it. Marciano was several times the fighter Brewster is.

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4. Rocky owns severeal Attributes (Workrate, Volume Punching, Finishing Skills, IronWill, Aggresion) that far exceeds that of Brewsters. All of the attributes I listed above are vital into forcing wlad into a panic attack.
All of those things are important, but many won't come into play vs. Wlad. It's hard to have a massive workrate and volume punching against a guy you can't consistently get inside against. I also wonder if Rocky would carry his power up to superheavyweight.



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Exactley the type of reason he will lose to Marciano. Rocco will force wlad right into a panic attack once he lands on his chin and applies some pressure. It has happened to wlad more than once.
It's not like Wlad has an automatic "off" button.




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Ultimatley Crosstrainer you are picking the underdog here. You are picking a man who has had a history of falling apart to vastly inferior men with the same styles as Marciano.
Brewster's style is nothing like Marciano's, except in the loose sense that they're both pressure fighters with lots of heart. If Brewster's was similar, he would have been hit a lot less against Wlad and beaten Wlad much sooner. Marciano has the right style to beat Wlad, but I don't think he has the size to do it.
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