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Old 06-26-2007, 02:11 PM   #15
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Thumbs up Re: Felix Sturm vs Artur Abraham

Originally Posted by Odo
Once again welcome back to esb,universum!

As for your quotations of Kohl if I remember correctly Abraham's promoter Sauerland called Kohl's statement a lie publishing an offer for a fight between his boy Abraham and Sturm the day after Kohl had made aforementioned statement.

By the way you damn right in saying that German boxing crowds very often dont have a clue about the game.

Haha! I see that you still have a fairly good opinion of Sturm despite his ko loss to Castillejo,despite his countless pathetic performances against limited journeymen,despite his gift decision against Velasquo.Abraham brutally stopped the Argie-he didnt need the judges ' help.

Well,merry,as you can see I am still not sold on Sturm.
Odo my mate

I see you re still heartily disliking Sturm despite his numerous good performances as well. You know I disagree with you about him allegedly winning a fluke decision against Velasco, he pretty much dominated him well into the middle rounds and ran out of gas late on as he had been preparing for I think an 8 rounder (schenk was supposed to take on Velasco I think). IMo he won the fight by a fair margin. Its not that significant to me Abrams beat him better, different fighter, different day, different game plan and cross comaparisons very seldomly hold much value, Im sure you yourself could give countless examples of that sort.

As I said further up his KO defeat to castillejo which he has avenged in the meantime was up to the wrong gameplan. He was leading on the cards but then decided to trade with a guy who´s only chance was a KO at that time (remember the whistling crowd after the final round in the Kiwi fight, stupid crowd ). I dont remember too many bad showing s versus so called Journeymen either, in total his resume looks probably better than Abrams or at least not noteworthy worse. Abraham fought people coming up in weight for him, didnt he? in Taylor, Kofuah and demiers, admittedly his Eastman (close) and Miranda wins were pretty impressive though

I havent read anything about sauerland replying to Kohls statements as of late, in fact those statements were made only very recently, i think I heard them on german telly last sunday or saturday.

sauerland of course has to produce some waves now what with the number of his reigning champs diminishing by the months these days.

Odo, I see you re still the heart and sould of this section, keep it up, I hope you re fine and all
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