Originally Posted by Jaws
A lot of hypothetical situations come up because, well.....that's what a lot of historical boxing discussion is.
The very question of this thread "Did Holyfield have Tyson's number?" is another way of saying "Would Holyfield beat any version of Tyson?". So of course people are going to bring up the changes and up and downs of each fighter's career. I don't see anything wrong with that. Just because you hear a lot of the same reasons for Tyson over and over again shouldn't diminish the argument.
And I don't think anyone can argue Tyson depreciated farther (and most of it was his fault) than almost any other fighter in such a short amount of time.
Thats correct. People just have a strong dislike of Tyson and thats understandable, but just like Lewis became better and more consistent fighter after hiring Emanuel Steward, the opposite happend for Tyson. Theres nothing speculative about it, the proof is in their respective careers, and it has nothing to do with Holyfield just being a better fighter. Holyfield would have always been a tough mathcup for Tyson, but Tyson would have been a much tougher fight for Holyfield when he still had a good amount of his skills still in tact.