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Old 09-28-2007, 03:45 PM   #21
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Default Re: Was Ali's second tier list better than some first tier lists?

Originally Posted by mr. magoo
We all know who the big wins were for Muhammad Ali. His first tier list consists primarily of Foreman, Frazier, Liston and either Norton or Patterson ( depending on who you talk to ).

This thread is designed to discuss who his second tier list of opponents were, and weather or not this secondary list was as good or better than some champion's top list.

Ali's second tier list:
( in no particular order)

1. Jerry Quarry

2. Ron Lyle

3. Oscar Bonavena

4. Jimmy Ellis

5. Earnie Shavers

6. Jimmy Young

7. Buster Mathis

8. Earnie Terrell

9. Zora Folley

10. Mac Foster

11. Cleveland Williams

12. Joe Bugner

Now, what do you guys think? Were these opponents better than the top list of contenders that some lineal champions faced. How about guys like Dempsey, Johnson, Holmes, Louis, or Marciano?
These oponents would make up a prety solid resume but it is important not to build them up to more than they were as OLD FOGEY has pointed out.

While Ali's A teir is unmatched his B teir might not necisarily be the best of any heavyweight champion. If you took Joe Louis's A teir to exclude Baer Schmeling and Walcott you would still have a lot of talent.

Where dose Floyd PAtterson fit in by the way?
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