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Old 07-16-2010, 12:14 PM   #75
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Default Re: Harry Greb vs. Sugar Ray Robinson

Originally Posted by McGrain View Post
That's grand - thanks for the heads up. Is Greb's weight (given by boxrec) for December 1914's clash with Joe Borrell accurate? He is given as weighing just above 170 at that time. This is less than one year after his debut. Your thoughts?

Further to your remarks about the LW "caveat",Greb being smaller as a teen, how do you mean? How does Greb being smaller as a youth impact thoughts on a h2h match up?

But this is exactly the case?

Yes the weight is accurate. At that point, the end of 1914, Greb had grown into a middleweight. Weighing in the mid 150s. When he fought Borrell he had not been in training because he was living in Philadelphia trying to break into the big time and having no luck getting fights. He was averaging about a fight a month and hadnt fought in almost a month. He attended the Borrell bout as a spectator and when Borrells opponent couldnt fight Greb offered his services from the audience. All of the papers state that at 170 Greb was out of shape, in no condition to fight and one even calls him "hog fat" That being said I wouldnt doubt if Greb weighed in wearing his clothes which in December in Philadelphia during that time period would have probably added several pounds.
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