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Old 09-23-2010, 11:22 AM   #118
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Default Re: Do you consider Juan Manuel Marquez to be an ATG

Originally Posted by Addie View Post
I knew someone would have to drag this out...everybody with a pulse and who has been watching the current scene knows that Marquez had a lot more left than Casa and Barrera did at that point. No real debate to be had. Marquez was naturally bigger than Marco, and carried the weight better too. First time I saw Marco look soft in the body when he fought Marquez. Not a terribly great win. Casamayor went life and death with one dimensional Katsidis and should have lost to Cruz. Good win, not a great one.

I really didn't need to type that out....

Struggling with the likes of Rocky Juarez.

Struggling with Katsidis, losing to Cruz.

Lost to Campbell, but a good win nonetheless. "Good" being the operative word.

As I say, not really going to get in a big back and forth with you about this Power Puncher. You can tell me how old Barrera was as if I didn't already know and that he was champion at the time of the Marquez fight. You quote numbers and recite what can be read off Boxrec, and I'll go by what I know having watched the fights themselves. They were good wins, not great wins.
This sort of stuff just isn't subjective

Morales lost to barrera the fight before he beat Manny.

Morales lost to Zaheer Rahman, the fight before he lost to Pacquiao, and 4 straight afterwards

Barrera was destroyed by Marquez the fight before Manny boxed out a close win in their rematch

Cotto had lost to Margarito, and struggled with Clottey, pre Pacquiao

De la Hoya was awful against Steve Forbes the fight before Pacquiao

Hatton had been destroyed by Mayweather before Pacquiao

Margarito had bee destroyed by an old Mosely, before Pacquiao
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