Originally Posted by Bill Butcher
Dont act the cunt, Robinson obviously underestimated Turpin & won the rematch by knockout, he never underestimated Lamotta & was in his best form as he would be Hagler as Hagler was 1 of the best ever also, SRR would respect Hagler enough to be at his own brilliant best knowing that less would almost certainly not be good enough.
Im talking both at their best, Robinson beats Hagler because he was a better fighter, period !
He wasnt consistent at middleweight, that was a major problem throughout his middleweight career. It is understandable, because he was the greatest welterweight ever (probably) but not the greatest middleweight ever, although still probably one of the 10 greatest ever. Hagler had the better middleweight career adn probably would have beaten Robinson, quite possibly by stoppage.
La motta wasnt anywhere near as good as Hagler, imo, and neither were any of the fighters who beat Robinson, with the possible exception of Joey Maxim whose weight and size may have posed Hagler problems because of the unknown factor, but probably wouldnt have.
Robinson was a great fighter, but as a middleweight it is pretty clear that he wasnt the greatest ever.