Randy COUTURE vs Rampage JACKSON - who'd win in 2003 at 205?

Popkins · 07-02-2011, 05:53 AM

The Couture who beat Liddell and Ortiz in 2003

vs

The Rampage who beat Liddell and Randleman in 2003

Who'd win this fight?

(and is the winner the 4th best lhw ever after Wanderlei, Shogun and Chuck?)

Stoo · 07-02-2011, 05:57 AM

Rampage by ko. Its that simple

Anarchy99 · 07-02-2011, 06:08 AM

I feel Couture but I THINK Rampage gets it. Randy has more than a chance though.

Popkins · 07-02-2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

Rampage by ko. Its that simple

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Originally Posted by Popkins

(and is the winner the 4th best lhw ever after Wanderlei, Shogun and Chuck?)

Stoo · 07-02-2011, 06:35 AM

It's not that simple really Popkins. H2H doesnt necessarily reflect ATG rankings, I think Rampage is a bad stylistic match up for Randy. And Rampages resume is much deeper than Randy's at LHW anyway

scurlaruntings · 07-02-2011, 06:47 AM

Rampage FUCKS him up and BADLY!

scurlaruntings · 07-02-2011, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

It's not that simple really Popkins. H2H doesnt necessarily reflect ATG rankings, I think Rampage is a bad stylistic match up for Randy. And Rampages resume is much deeper than Randy's at LHW anyway

Popkins · 07-02-2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

It's not that simple really Popkins. H2H doesnt necessarily reflect ATG rankings, I think Rampage is a bad stylistic match up for Randy. And Rampages resume is much deeper than Randy's at LHW anyway

Well aren't you just effectively saying yes, Rampage is 4th best anyway then? I mean, if it's not Rampage then who is it? Who else matches his body of work at 205 other than Wandy, Shogun and Chuck?

Stoo · 07-02-2011, 07:59 AM

Dont know, personally I find it hard to rank active guys but Id put Rampage ahead of Randy in a h2h. His dirty boxing is better, and Randy aint exactly a beast in the clinch with the knees which is Pages weakness and Randy NEEDS to clinch to avoid the power shots and work to get a takedown

(PimpThaSystem) · 07-02-2011, 05:35 PM

I'd say Randy based on the way Team Quest middleweights Dan Henderson and Matt Lindland ran Rampage to extremely close decisions during Quinton's prime. Both guys took Rampage down repeatedly, threatened him with submissions, used the clinch effectively, and have very similar styles to Randy being his former teammates. I see Randy taking a decision in a very close competitive fight. There's always a chance Page knocks Randy out but we've seen him have trouble finishing lesser opponents throughout his career so I wouldn't bet on it.

Here's a video of Page and Randy Sparring at Xtreme Couture from a couple years ago:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYimN742rHE[/ame]

MaliSlamusrex · 07-03-2011, 08:18 AM

Simple rule... never bet against Randy.

Anarchy99 · 07-03-2011, 06:24 PM

H2H I pick Rampage but like Stoo said, h2h can't be used when looking at whose greater. For example, I feel Chuck Liddell is a stylistic nightmare for Wandy but rank him ahead of Liddell.

rekcutnevets · 07-03-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by (PimpThaSystem)

I'd say Randy based on the way Team Quest middleweights Dan Henderson and Matt Lindland ran Rampage to extremely close decisions during Quinton's prime. Both guys took Rampage down repeatedly, threatened him with submissions, used the clinch effectively, and have very similar styles to Randy being his former teammates. I see Randy taking a decision in a very close competitive fight. There's always a chance Page knocks Randy out but we've seen him have trouble finishing lesser opponents throughout his career so I wouldn't bet on it.

Here's a video of Page and Randy Sparring at Xtreme Couture from a couple years ago:

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Very good post, and I agree. I would have to side with Couture on this, and it's because I think he wins if he doesn't get ko'd. Let me give an example of what I mean by that.

I posted a while back that if Fedor could not exploit his superior speed against Silva, that he would get man handled. That meant Fedor only had one way to win. I picked Fedor to win that fight, so I'm not trying to claim a complete victory with that thought. Still, we saw what happened.

I think that against Couture, Rampage only has one way to win; his punching power. If Jackson can't land a bomb, he loses.

jrow · 07-04-2011, 01:39 AM

rampage by ko 1st round

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07-02-2011, 05:53 AM	#1
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07-02-2011, 05:57 AM	#2
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07-02-2011, 06:35 AM	#5
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,937 vCash: 1000	Re: Randy COUTURE vs Rampage JACKSON - who'd win in 2003 at 205? It's not that simple really Popkins. H2H doesnt necessarily reflect ATG rankings, I think Rampage is a bad stylistic match up for Randy. And Rampages resume is much deeper than Randy's at LHW anyway
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07-02-2011, 06:47 AM	#6
scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By any means necessary Posts: 43,277 vCash: 1000	Re: Randy COUTURE vs Rampage JACKSON - who'd win in 2003 at 205? Rampage FUCKS him up and BADLY!
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07-02-2011, 07:59 AM	#9
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,937 vCash: 1000	Re: Randy COUTURE vs Rampage JACKSON - who'd win in 2003 at 205? Dont know, personally I find it hard to rank active guys but Id put Rampage ahead of Randy in a h2h. His dirty boxing is better, and Randy aint exactly a beast in the clinch with the knees which is Pages weakness and Randy NEEDS to clinch to avoid the power shots and work to get a takedown
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07-02-2011, 05:35 PM	#10
(PimpThaSystem) Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Holton Street, Dean Street (click clack) Posts: 907 vCash: 1000	Re: Randy COUTURE vs Rampage JACKSON - who'd win in 2003 at 205? I'd say Randy based on the way Team Quest middleweights Dan Henderson and Matt Lindland ran Rampage to extremely close decisions during Quinton's prime. Both guys took Rampage down repeatedly, threatened him with submissions, used the clinch effectively, and have very similar styles to Randy being his former teammates. I see Randy taking a decision in a very close competitive fight. There's always a chance Page knocks Randy out but we've seen him have trouble finishing lesser opponents throughout his career so I wouldn't bet on it. Here's a video of Page and Randy Sparring at Xtreme Couture from a couple years ago: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYimN742rHE[/ame]
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07-03-2011, 08:18 AM	#11
MaliSlamusrex Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,256 vCash: 1000	Re: Randy COUTURE vs Rampage JACKSON - who'd win in 2003 at 205? Simple rule... never bet against Randy.
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07-03-2011, 06:24 PM	#12
Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,109 vCash: 441	Re: Randy COUTURE vs Rampage JACKSON - who'd win in 2003 at 205? H2H I pick Rampage but like Stoo said, h2h can't be used when looking at whose greater. For example, I feel Chuck Liddell is a stylistic nightmare for Wandy but rank him ahead of Liddell.
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07-04-2011, 01:39 AM	#14
jrow Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: carthage,tennessee Posts: 805 vCash: 1000	Re: Randy COUTURE vs Rampage JACKSON - who'd win in 2003 at 205? rampage by ko 1st round
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